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Also stemming from my conversation with DrP about the pt with the infected ovaries....I asked if she should be started on antibiotics, as it made sense to me and some of my coworkers had also been wondering the same thing all day. So I ask, and he orders two antibiotics. The next day I hear DrP talking to the patient and say well the nurse asked me about antibiotics so I ordered them to make her happy. Jeez, really. That sure made my day! Not! As a doctor you take the information the nurses give you about the patient as we are there 8-12 hours/day, you listen to our concerns and questions, and then you make a Medical decision. I should hope you are not so unthinking, and put off by nurses that you just agree with whatever we say or ask. It is okay with me if you disagree, tell me your plan for treatment, and maybe if you want to be nice tell me your rationale so I can learn too. You won't help me by just doing anything I suggest, its okay to have different opinions, and I am still trying to learn all the course of treatment for all the different ailments out there. And don't blame the nurse in front of the patients for what is ultimately your decision. We are supposed to be a team, be partners. We are each supposed to use our brains and our educations to make the best decisions we know how to provide our patients with the best care.

shh....dont say anything

The other day I had a few conversations. The first was with a coworker, who agreed with myself and others that a pt with infected ovaries and uterine cysts, as seen by ultrasound & CT should be seen by a surgeon in the city. The second was with that pts doctor who when I asked if we were going to send the pt to a gynecologist, or for surgery in the city by a gyne surgeon briskly and close to rudely told me 'No,' finalizing that our older, rural surgeon was good enough for someone who might have real gyne problems. The third conversation was again with a coworker, who although agreed that our sugron might kill the pt, and that he might in fact be a sociopath, as floor nurses we basically cannot say anything to our patients that might hint at or encourage them to seek a second opinion. For if we did, it would likely come around to us, and our jobs would then become 'hell', as made by the surgeon. Even as a group it would be hard to speak up against this failing surgeon, we are not the OR nurses, and only hear second hand what happens in the OR, and see some patients come back from surgery sicker than when they left. I had looked into how to report a Dr for the wet floor sign incident but the patients family has to be made aware, as does the patient (if they are still alive) and you have to witness the incident first hand. Which is hard to do as floor nurses. My coworker also said that as floor nurses we arent the best ones who know the most about surgeries. Basically, for this older surgeons practices to be brought to the authorities it would have to be his peers doing it - the other doctors that go in the OR and even the OR nurses. And although I have heard other Drs complain about the surgeon, it doesnt seem as anything is happening. Patients with cancer have been opened up, and then closed, left to die without intervention. Tumors have been 'completely removed' and problems denied by the surgeon, only for the patient a year later to get to another Dr, and find it wasnt all removed, and a year of treatment had been denied for what, pride, ego? Surgeries that take an hour in the city have taken four or even eight. An artery cut accidentally. But, as these are only a combination of stories and second hand experiences, I cant say too much, it is just some of what I have seen and heard in my three years here. And to be honest I wouldnt be suprised if when and if I ever get enough information to speak up my job is negatively effected. Likely from my peers and doctors belonging to this old boys club not saying anything against the surgeon, and from the surgeon himself - he can be difficult to work with as is if he doesn't like you.

things that make me mad and stressed at work

The list:

going to work to find I have 10 pts, 2 of them in ICU. and then finding the other nurse only has 7, but thats okay cause 'she will help me' yeah right, if I ever see her. way to stick the most critical patients with the nurse with the least experience. thanks.

going to work to find I have 6 pts, but two are coming back from calgary my shift, post MI. and still no one cares that I feel overwhelmed.

dealing with DR.T. the quickest disappearing, hardest to find, poorest penmanship dr. esp. when he is on call.

newborn babies that dont eat for 16+ hours. please maintain your bloodsugar little baby.

coworkers who are 'helpful' by checking on my patients, finding out they need something, then passing it on to me instead of doing something about it. if you have enough time to 'peek in' on my patients, you have enough time to give them their prn med. otherwise let me see them when I have time.

coworkers who get all worked up when pts orders are changed to their dissatisfaction - if its not your patient today, and you havent been here, give it a rest.

having to go through and delete 20+ 'notice of downtime' emails in a week. if the internet is down, I'll figure it out when I go to use it. and then the equal amount of 'internet is working' emails. Duh.

policies and procedures from 1990. how is this uptodate and best practice?

why I feel the need to go straight to the pts Dr, not the Dr on call

A few weeks ago now I had a post-op patient who, while in the city, had fallen and gotten a sub-dural hematoma...shipped back to our rural site he was periodically confused, had super high blood pressures, and just wasnt being himself, according to his wife. I report all this to the doctor on call who gives him some BP meds, and then orders Haldol prn. Now we all think this is a bit much as the pt isnt actively psychotic. Then the Dr on call gets this pts INR results, which are within normal range, and decides to order 6mg Coumadin. Well this sure didnt seem right, so after consulting with my coworkers it is decided I will go straight to the pts Dr and avoid the doc on call. Pts doc wants pt sent out for a stat CT after hearing how pts weekend has gone, and to not on my life give the 6mg Coumadin. Pt goes for CT, everything is thankfully good. However, Dr. on Call explodes in rage when he finds out pt is going out, calls pt Dr to ream him out. Fortunately he couldnt put two and two together to figure out it was me who called the pts DR. Eventually he did figure out it was me, and sits my down one day, to talk about how it made him look bad that he couldnt take care of the other Dr's pts, and being a small town word will spread, etc, etc, and how we should just be able to call the Dr on call. Well maybe if the Dr on call actually stayed in the hospital, didnt run around like a chicken with its head cutoff, and read charts and histories before ordering meds. I can't run around all day after the Dr on call, that day already I spent at least on hour looking for him and trying to get ahold of him, and then having to call him back to clarify his poorly handwritten orders. If I had dealt with the pts Dr from the getgo I think half my time and stress would have been saved.